REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 6107 on r2-app-0db532326e4301ab6 at 2020-12-21 00:12:46.578682+00:00 running 406fa40 country code: US. Yeah, it all looks so intentional to me. And when you do that, you're implying we don't need to rely on YMMV like we do with other brands or products. I believe that the price point of NIOD is simply a marketing strategy known as premium pricing. Are we really doing the wrong thing by using AHAs and BHAs and retinoids? are all resources that I have thoroughly vetted (in other words, I've read everything they've put out that I can get my hands on) and will say are some of the best I've encountered at presenting the science in a way that's digestible, easily understood, and ACCURATE. I would stay away from this (sends all the wrong biosignals) and look for a different source. I have no idea whether other GHK-containing products contain the Cu-bound version... My issue and what I'm trying to address is how and why a company would present themselves in a way that emphasizes their science in a way that isn't accessible, and possibly purposefully so. Instead of using direct acids like AHA/BHA or retinoids that are common in skincare. As a consumer, this shouldn't be interpreted in absolutes; it just means there is a possibility that a product wouldn't work on your self but it could work on someone else. [–]rglo820NW15|Aging/Pigmentation|Combo|US 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (0 children). Picking something apart and having a negative opinion doesn't mean a product doesn't work or is bad. I figured I may as well take a stab. lol I'm just puzzled why they did it at all. [–]GiveMeABreak25NC20|Aging/Pigmentation|Dry|US 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (2 children). [–]YogaNerdMDNC25|Pigmentation/Pores|Combo|US[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child). (oh, okay...). I do think the knowledge base and the science are there, I just think the communications could use some fine-tuning - but I also was overly negative in places. NIOD itself stands for Non Invasive Options in Dermal Science.) I don't disagree, but I do think that the average non-skincare nerd is much more likely to have heard of carrageenan in the context of inflammation than comedogenicity rating. Even - to a woman interested in replacing her Hylamide favourite with the entire NIOD line: if you're loving the SubQ Eyes then god, no, don't bother buying all the NIOD! Click on either of those links, and you'll find these are laboratory studies. In my line of work, it pays to listen to people who know what they're talking about! And I'll be transparent - I'm part of that excited public! Wait, cleansing my face is bad? Is it because it's in English? I don't deny that I might be in the minority in feeling the way I do. Prior to that he started EUOKO which was later sold-off to a company in Hong Kong. And I'm not an AB purist - my collection is at least half Western. I would stay away from this (sends all the wrong biosignals) and look for a different source. [–]kohimirukuNC20|Acne|Oily/Dehydrated|US 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children). They could totally capitalize on the current buzz and I think they are trying to but I don't think it has been coordinated all according to keikaku or anything. Thing is, in terms of doing good PR, his way of talking/writing is well received. Like, were these start-ups or small existing businesses he acquired or that he entirely created? Science is amazing and awesome. A company is allowed a wiggle room of not-so-true words to promote their products and companies will exploit this... especially when they think no one's looking. Get It Beauty is one long advertisement pretending to be a TV show as another example. Will correct. 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